Mudrat
I'm in San Diego right now, waiting on Sam & RDM right now. Pics to follow in June ...
fifesjeep
Dang man... You do get around! ;-)
TexasJ10
I have the serpentine kit for the sanden and i thought for the cs144. First off i am surprised the kit doesn't include written instructions, all required bolts and the proper belt. I think i ended up buying the wrong belt, because there was nothing that indicated what the right belt part number for the sanden kit is. In the pictures of the install that i qcan find the drivers side idler pulley is mounted in the upward postion in the york photo and downward with the only install pics I have seen with the sanden. Is that right for some reason? Also, I'm trying to find a cs144 that has mounting holes 6 7/8 apart as the bracket is set up. Every one that i have found so far are around 7 1/8. Lastly, I'm wondering why the upper mounting hole on the alternator bracket doesn't line up with the hole in the head like the stock bracket. It would be a much stronger mounting arrangement, especially when using the heavier cs144.
jeepsr4ever
The serpentine kits do not support the CS144. Sanden idler will go down and the belt is a K060915. Do you have the slotted bracket or the one with holes in it?
TexasJ10
There was a post on the ifsja board back a year or so
, that said the kit now supported cs144. It is one of the reasons i bought it. I have the slotted bracket with both 6 5/8 and 6 7/8 inch slots. Which alternator is the 6 7/8 slot for. In the post announcing the support it indicated it was for the cs144. Thanks for answer on the idler and belt. I can get that on today. I also left you a pm about the feasibility of getting a bracket made for 6.6 inch alt mounting like the si12 and 7.2 inch mounting like the cs144. Ideally this would have the upper bolt running all the way through to the head like stock. Thanks for making the kit available and affordable. Your company has made owning these old beasts manageable.
jeepsr4ever
We did make a bracket for alittle while but the sales #'s werent there. Our CAD systems were updated and all the drawings for the old bracket are gone. The 6.6 mounting will work with the smaller slot. The 7.2" mounting is tricky. Maybe sometime next week we will be able to look deeper into it.
TexasJ10
Sounds good. Its possible that the existing bracket design without any slots could work for me. The cs144 fits in the bracket, and the fan clears the edges by 3/16 or so. The tension adjustment bolt hole on the alternator simply hangs below the slot by around .25 inches. I could probably just drill one hole for the cs144 in an unslotted bracket and make the belt adjustment at the power steering pump. Of course all that assumes that your current cad parameters are the same as when my bracket was made. I will still fab something up to support the top mounting bolt better, and maybe also the rear of the alternator since there is a threaded hole in the back of the alt for that purpose.
jeepsr4ever
We did it 2 ways. One was 3 bolts through the slots with a little machines piece for the CS144's big body and the other was a large bracket. I wonder if we have any of those leg adaptors left. I will look and if we dont I bet I have a drawing on them.
TexasJ10
The k060915 belt turned out to be way to small for the sanden kit. I would have to put an alternator size pulley on the power steering pump to get it to work, and that might not be enough. Can i take a string or something to measure the total length needed and somehow convert that to a belt size?
jeepsr4ever
Your right I am sorry I gave you the York size the Sanden is K061031 We have them in stock PM me your addy I will see one out.
TexasJ10
No worries, i can take the other one back to the parts store and get the 61031
javman
Trying to install Idler on water pump side of serpentine kit 1st picture shows pulley down and second picture shows it in up position niether seems to work on mine
does the long bolt go in place of bolt that holds the pump bracket? if so where does the arm attach?
cw05
What is the serpentine belt length for York compressor systems? I see gates part #K060915 (92.125" long) cited previously in this forum and K061031 (103.67" long) on the product description ([url]http://www.bulltear.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=247[/url]). Which is correct? Thanks -
jeepsr4ever
k061031
cw05
[QUOTE=jeepsr4ever;134928]k061031[/QUOTE]
Thanks
cw05
[QUOTE=jeepsr4ever;134928]k061031[/QUOTE]
I cannot get the york compressor pulley to line up with the other pulleys (76 wagoneer 401 with horizontal york). All of the other pulleys line up but the york compressor is too far towards the motor by ~ 1/2". I rechecked and I did buy your serp kit for the York not the Sanden. Do you have any detailed pictures of the bolt set-up with the york? The only instructions I see on your website is the non-ac kit.
jeepsr4ever
The York aluminum bracket must be spaced out using the spacers that came with the kit. This will eliminate the steel bracket.
cw05
[QUOTE=jeepsr4ever;134931]The York aluminum bracket must be spaced out using the spacers that came with the kit. This will eliminate the steel bracket.[/QUOTE]
Do you have any detailed pictures of this setup? Do the spacers go behind the stock lower aluminum bracket? Can I leave the York horizontally mounted or do I have to mount it vertically like the pic on your website with the Javelin motor? Can I just eliminate the York with the current pulley setup? If so, do you have a part # or length of the required belt? Thanks-
jeepsr4ever
You space out the York using the spacers behind the original bracket. You can mount it vertically or horizontal it can be mounted any way.
cw05
[QUOTE=jeepsr4ever;134933]You space out the York using the spacers behind the original bracket. You can mount it vertically or horizontal it can be mounted any way.[/QUOTE]
Thanks. Can you please tell me the bolt sizes and lengths and lengths of the spacers needed to complete the install? The motor is about an hour away from me and I want to buy all the correct parts before I go there