jeepsr4ever
Prototyping early next month on a new AMC V8 timing cover with a removable oil pump that uses a new style water pump, Chevy HEI and a couple other goodies we have planned.
The main idea of this is to make very cheap accessories.
We want to allow the use of high flow water pump that is very inexpensive (even the electric versions)
We have also thought a seperate oil pump would increase the value of the motors and make the AMC V8 oil pumps bullet proof (without adding a ton of cost!)
The use of a Chevy HEI and other Chevy style distributors is obvious. when a small weight change is implemeted these distributors work great in a AMC V8 and are very cheap!
While this is in the early stages of planning we are looking at making every facet of the timing cover seperate. Why? because if you have one thing in a stock cover that goes bad the entire assembly has to be replaced. We have done Ni coatings and they are great for the soft cast but I believe we can even evolve from there to a ceramic oil pump (possibly electric)
Opinions? Concerns?
Patf10
sounds cool what type of timeframe on this and what type of cost for the cover in comparison to a stock style if you know yet?
jeepsr4ever
:-|
donwag
I like it. Good idea. Especially making the oil pump removable/replaceable as a unit rather than doing the whole timing cover.
Using the chevy style anything will be a little less cost.
zero cool
I'll take two please! :mrgreen:
Blown7
I want one now!!!!!!!!!!!!! :lo1l: :lo1l: :lo1l: :lo1l:
How's the oil pump drive? With the same kind of shaft that is driven by the distrubutor? Will the pump have provisions for the dual pickup Milodon sump? Will the original dizzy still work? Will the Accel Dual Sync work? If you change the style of water pump will the OEM pulleys work? Will a serpentine belt system be offered? What is the brand of the oil pump? Will external oil pressure be adjustable? So many questions. I still have more.
Make the cover with the ability to access the timing chain with having to remove the whole cover assembly. Will a external oil filter adapter need to be added?
Jeff
jeepsr4ever
:shock:
AMX69PHATTY
Why would anyone want to put that CHEAP chevy #&%*$# on an AMC Motor ?
Just kidding, sounds like a good idea. Practical and realistic.
Almost 20 years since there even was a company called AMC.
In Autoweek mag someone wrote in and asked if the speculated chev and ford merger
took place what would the company be called, American Motors ?
:shock:
Guess ya outta work some ford parts in there too maybe :mrgreen:
Blown7
[quote=jeepsr4ever]:shock:[/quote]
:!:
Not to mention will the sealing surface with the oil pan still be the goofy rubber flat seal? Or maybe a an oil ring? Will the location of the oil pump change? Will the location of the Chevy H2O pump outlet side stay the same or will a radiator change be in order? Or use a Ford pump? While your at it a billet harded gear at the cam and a bronze gear at the dizzy. Maybe at built in pickup for a Crankshaft Position Sensor either Flying Magnet for Hall effect or reluctience wheel. Maybe a provision for a Camshaft position sensor for sequential fuel injection. Will the dizzy have options in terms of having to use a GM HEI or a phaseable rotor type. The reason I ask about quick access to the timing chain is one company at least is offering a quick access cover for SBC to access the timing chain.
Hey in the words of Bill Alexander a painter who was on PBS in the 1970's "You are the Almighty Creator" so you can start with a clean canvas and create a Masterpeice.
Rogue Racer
How about a removeable front plate to facilitate camshaft changes without having to mess with the oil pan seal and distributor-to-drive gear register?
jeepsr4ever
[quote=Rogue Racer]How about a removeable front plate to facilitate camshaft changes without having to mess with the oil pan seal and distributor-to-drive gear register?[/quote]
Yes yes and yes
JMSII
Sign me up! Just say when and I will need two! :lo1l:
runnamuck
sounds really promising. alot of bugs/options.
:popcorn:
jeepsr4ever
Phase one. Finding the gasket surface and finish design on the backplate
[img]http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y29/bulltear/part1amct.jpg[/img]
The three lines represent the proper distributor to pin alignment
jeepsr4ever
Getting closer... word travels fast on the interweb. Omix already knows about this :?:
[img]http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y29/bulltear/part2amct.jpg[/img]
runnamuck
[quote=jeepsr4ever]Getting closer... word travels fast on the interweb. Omix already knows about this :?: [/quote]
get a pattent laywer on it. and cha-chig. :t:
jeepsr4ever
[img]http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y29/bulltear/part3amct.jpg[/img]
Done I have the back of the timing cover mapped. We had it before but for some reason I couldnt open the file...DOH But it wasnt that bad to map again
jeepsr4ever
Ok here is a rough draft of the back plate. This plate is designed to "stay in place" while the front will be able to come off for cam/timing changes.
[img]http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y29/bulltear/part4amct.jpg[/img]
Goose
Dad gum it!! here ya go again..Another must have thingamajiggie,...somebody quick send me that box!
Looks cool though. and oil pressure>> cheap at any price.
AMX69PHATTY
May I ask what CAD drafting software that is ?
Do you have a view of the rocker stud and Valve stem in the head
that shows the rocker tip length you've mentioned
that you could post in the Harland Sharp Rocker thread ?
