bls33
Alright so i have a 360 out of my 77 chero, and im gonna swap it into my 85 CJ7, i was gonna swap the th400 in the chero to the CJ but dont want to spend the money to adapt it to the dana 300 in the CJ, so now im thinking of swapping in a 727 but the clocking is different on those if i'm not mistaken but has the same bolt pattern so how hard is it to re drill the t-case (because i dont want to spend the $$$ on a cloking plate) to mate with the 727? Are there any other good tranny's that will mate with the dana 300? and did any one run into any problems swapping in a 360, from what i've read its a pretty straightforward swap
Thanks
Josh
Mudrat
Hey Josh - doing the 360 swap now into an 87 CJ, the only problem I've had is the heat shield on the DR side above the clutch bellcrank hit the block (yeah - I've got a stick). The 258 bell housing fits the 360 no problem.
I'll be doing the 727 swap later this year, but dunno about the better Auto tranny that doesn't need an adaptor to the T-case ...
bls33
yea i figured i would end up still going with the 727, i jus started saving up to buy one, but then i got an offer i coudlnt refuse a locker for $125 with only 2k miles on it :lo1l:...I'll be on the lookout for updates on your swap and wish you good luck, im sure at the end of the day we will both be happy with the swap :t:
Mudrat
Well, this is where I'm at. Waiting on the rest of the parts to button it up ...
bls33
That thing will be bad ass when its all done...An FSJ powered CJ will blow your pants off :shock:
o yea and what headers did you get for it?
Mudrat
bls33 wroteThat thing will be bad ass when its all done...An FSJ powered CJ will blow your pants off :shock:
o yea and what headers did you get for it?
Hope I can keep my pants on, and NOT soiled!!!!! :? A bored, balanced, blueprinted 360 should be fun :wink:
Got some Hedman 99220's in frame - I have to run a Cat in VA so I figure a 2 to 1 pipe through a single exhaust for right now ...
Mudrat
How does one put a cat on a fenderwell exhaust? I got the wrong ones (ordered in frame), but said what the hell and mounted them anyway, buttttt .... thought of the VA inspection AFTER I mounted the suckers ????
Lifted79CJ7
Trust me, I had a set up fenderwells and since you plan on going off road, you will bash the crap out of them and rip your exhaust off. Pack them up and send them back. If you don't plan on taking it off road, then leave them on - they do always look cool and sound cooler. I'm sure Fuzz would agree!
Jack
PS - lookin slick! I'm jealous!
bls33
I'm starting the swap this week, hope to be done in a couple weeks, will i have any trouble with the wiring? the engine is comming out of a 77 cherokee
dbesade
Lifted79CJ7 wroteTrust me, I had a set up fenderwells and since you plan on going off road, you will bash the crap out of them and rip your exhaust off.
PS - lookin slick! I'm jealous!
I got a pair of Fenderwell's on my CJ and I haven't really bashed them at all 111!!! I have heard what you say from others as well, I dunno I suppose it depends on what kinda wheelin you do..
Lookin Good mudrat , its gunna be a beast 😉.
-Dave
Mudrat
dbesade wroteI got a pair of Fenderwell's on my CJ and I haven't really bashed them at all 111!!! I have heard what you say from others as well, I dunno I suppose it depends on what kinda wheelin you do..
Lookin Good mudrat , its gunna be a beast 😉.
-Dave
Thanks Dave, but...um...I've rolled 3 and went end-over in one. I've not been real sane when I get 'play'n hard. And if I'm not hard, I ain't play'n :shock: :? :wink:
Ummmm ... MC? May want to warn your lady friend when we get to the ONF in a couple weeks. I helped right Bobbed82 after he layed his over at the first Scramble :wink:
8675309
Send those things back, might even tell em to keep em and put some manifolds back on. I ended up getting rid of my in-frame hedman's and went back to manifolds.... Much easier to deal with.
Mudrat
Well I got the in frame headers on last night no problem. Instructions said take this and that off (starter, steering shaft ... ), but the only R&R I had to do was the clutch bell crank to wiggle them past the steering shaft, and it bolted right back on. They dump out with plenty of room before the skid so that's not going to be a problem like the Clifford set I had on the I-6.
But, I found I'm going to make a throttle bracket though :roll: The stock unit holds the cable too far away from the throttle (about 1") and that's too much to try and bend it. The nit-noid shit is getting to me - I'm not sure I'll be ready in a week to break in the motor before FL :(:
Lifted79CJ7
You have to pick up an edelbrock relocation bracket for the throttle cable - they are like 10 bucks or something. I never would have known about this if I hadn't read it in an issue of JP magazine!
Lifted79CJ7
8675309 wroteSend those things back, might even tell em to keep em and put some manifolds back on. I ended up getting rid of my in-frame hedman's and went back to manifolds.... Much easier to deal with.
Hey Jenny, is that you? I got your number. Actually, I got your number off the wall.
Mudrat
Lifted79CJ7 wroteYou have to pick up an edelbrock relocation bracket for the throttle cable - they are like 10 bucks or something. I never would have known about this if I hadn't read it in an issue of JP magazine!
I made one tonight out of some 1/8" plate - I'm sure it will hold up :wink:
bls33
Hey, im starting the swap tomorrow so I need to order the headers within the next couple of days what would you reccommend? I need fenderwells due to auto tranny, i want nice thick flanges, dont want any leaking....Also i would like some that dont turn instantly to that rust color like ones i have used in the past
Mudrat
bls33 wroteHey, im starting the swap tomorrow so I need to order the headers within the next couple of days what would you reccommend? I need fenderwells due to auto tranny, i want nice thick flanges, dont want any leaking....Also i would like some that dont turn instantly to that rust color like ones i have used in the past
I just got a set of Hedmans from Summit for $140 & free shipping. 1/4" flanges. They have the coated ones too for 2wce the $$
The page isn't marked real well for in-frame or fender well. I ordered up a set from the page and they came in fenderwell so I had to swap them out with the inframe. VA requires me to run a Cat and doing that with fender exit headers would not look good 111!!!
Call them and speak to a human to get the right ones.
"Rust happens, I just deal with it" 111!!!
bls33
awesome I will prolly give em a call tomorrow, dont want any mix ups delaying my build #-o
bls33
hmmm how about summits headers, any one use them before? I'll give you the stat lines for both summits and hedmans
Summit Headers
Header Material: Steel
Header Finish: Painted
Header Style: Fenderwell
Primary Tube Diameter (in): 1 5/8 in.
Collector Diameter (in): 3.000 in.
Tuned: No
Primary Tube Gauge: 18-gauge
Collector Attachment: 3-bolt flange
Flange Style: Standard
Flange Thickness (in): 5/16 in.
Bolts/Studs Included: Yes
Gaskets Included: Yes
Reducers Included: Yes
Y-Pipe Included: No
Quantity: Sold as a pair.
$95.95
Hedman Headers
Header Material: Steel
Header Finish: Painted
Header Style: Fenderwell
Primary Tube Diameter (in): 1 3/4 in.
Collector Diameter (in): 3.000 in.
Tuned: No
Primary Tube Gauge: 16-gauge
Collector Attachment: Ball and socket flange
Flange Style: Standard
Flange Thickness (in): 1/4 in.
Bolts/Studs Included: Yes
Gaskets Included: Yes
Reducers Included: Yes
Y-Pipe Included: No
Quantity: Sold as a pair.
$135.88
Both seem pretty close, but it also says the hedmans can be delivered next day and the summit headers wouldnt be till the 20th, and im using a buddies garage so i dont want to take to much of his time..also i've used hedmans befor and have been very satisfied
Oh yea and mudrat, i've decided to deal with the rust, $389 or whatever the coated ones cost helped :?:
