Main stud girdle for AMC V-8

Mudrat

fuzz401 wrote
1-800-help me 8)

You get a new phone number?? That's not the one I have on speed dial :-|

Goose

I'm guessing you put it on speed dial because, 1. no matter how bad the work session in the shop goes, you will always have at least one digit rigid enough to push the button. 2. They know your caller id and you have call back fast and often to fool them? :mrgreen:

fuzz401

caller Id = MudRat :mrgreen:

Mudrat

Atually, he's the one that answers the phone when I have a problem I can't "engineer". Voice mails don't help much when in desperate need :oops:

javsst

So whatever became of the stud girdle? :) Too late for the 360 I'm building now, but I do have another one lying around that could prove interesting. Also, would the main studs available be tall enough to accommodate the girdle? Thanks! Steve

Goose

ohhh I am so glad someone bumped this topic..!! I had forgotten the sad state of misery our Brother 'Rat was in we last left this story..Ummm So Brer 'Rat.. was the hole too big? too Small? or just right and of center.. As he ducks below cover giggling uncrontrollably :mrgreen: 8) :!:

Mudrat

Goose wrote
ohhh I am so glad someone bumped this topic..!! I had forgotten the sad state of misery our Brother 'Rat was in we last left this story..Ummm So Brer 'Rat.. was the hole too big? too Small? or just right and of center..

As he ducks below cover giggling uncrontrollably :mrgreen: 8) :!:

Actually it turned out pretty good!! And, I would have pics if the freak'n camera would work :smile:

But what does all this have to do with javsst wearing a girdle?? :shock: :mrgreen:

javsst

Hey! How's you know I gained some weight? :mrgreen:

Mudrat

javsst wrote
Hey! How's you know I gained some weight? :mrgreen:

Was easy ...

javsst wrote
So whatever became of the stud girdle? 🙂 Too late for the 360 I'm carrying around now, ...

:?:

Seriously, ar you looking for another 360 or building the 401??

Blown7

javsst wrote
So whatever became of the stud girdle? 🙂 Too late for the 360 I'm building now, but I do have another one lying around that
could prove interesting.

Also, would the main studs available be tall enough to accommodate the girdle?

Thanks!

Steve

Contact a fellow named Larry Keoman on the AMC forum.com he's out of Oregon, sells and makes AMC girdles.
Phone 541-973-7449

MC's too busy makin' my timing cover :t:

ARP AMC head studs work.

Jeff

javsst

Guys - thanks for the info. I have a 360 in storage now that one day will be built, this time, a little stronger on the bottom end. A 401 would be nice. Once I'm a little further along with the 360 I'm working on now, and have more resources (cough, money, cough) I'll be keeping an eye out. Though if a good deal comes along, who knows! Steve

jeepsr4ever

Blown7 wrote
javsst wrote
So whatever became of the stud girdle? 🙂 Too late for the 360 I'm building now, but I do have another one lying around that
could prove interesting.

Also, would the main studs available be tall enough to accommodate the girdle?

Thanks!

Steve

Contact a fellow named Larry Keoman on the AMC forum.com he's out of Oregon, sells and makes AMC girdles.
Phone 541-973-7449

MC's too busy makin' my timing cover :t:
ARP AMC head studs work.

Jeff

Yes I am...your oil pump will be belt driven off a new crank pulley Jeff.

Blown7

jeepsr4ever wrote
Yes I am...your oil pump will be belt driven off a new crank pulley Jeff.

:-| Hope I got the room :-|

Jeff

73hornut

Larry keonman, can also be reached at bulletbuilder1@embarkmail.com
He is now a member on this site and http://www.amcforums.com/cgi/yabb2/YaBB.pl, under bulletbuilder.

milnersXcoupe

#Lary Keonman: 541-973-7449

🙁: :!:

dadcat

Just spoke to Larry concerning his AMC girdle, he said he is running a special discount in the month of June, and has a few in stock as of today. Really nice guy to talk to, told me he has been making them for a very long time. The money order is in the mail the first day of June for his kit.

The PIG Smith

Blown7 wrote
Contact a fellow named Larry Keoman on the AMC forum.com he's out of Oregon, sells and makes AMC girdles.
Phone 541-973-7449

ARP AMC head studs work.

Jeff

milnersXcoupe wrote
#Lary Keonman: 541-973-7449

🙁: :!:

jeepsr4ever wrote
Well they may have a couple of issues. One is that the expansion rate MUST be the same as the stock cap. 1045 is the popular choice of material and it has a co-efficient of thermal expansion that is VERY close to the stock caps and block, 212 - 750 deg F. is 5.9-7.5 (per pro grams specs) Which is probly heat treated. When you use a plasma or lasered piece and it expands much greater than those numbers (mild steel) then your nuts will loosen. Material stability is another one...mild steel will dance under the heat due to the stresses (unless stress relieved) and for that length and thickness of material if it is indeed mild steel it can cause bearing issues. All this considering the machinist hasnt done his math on the material involved. Other considerations would be the flatness of the material. Blanchard grinding give materials a ultra flat surface, better than just a machined surface. The holes should also be VERY close to .500. Hopefully all this is integrated into this item.

Okay, so what is the bottom line?
I am reading conflicting comments.

Do Stud Girdles for the AMC 360 work?
Does this piece from Larry Keoman help or hurt?

jeepsr4ever

I believe this is a solution that could work for a while. How long depends on the heat/cooling cycles and fastener tension. Lots of these are made from 1045 steel (medium carbon middle range tension strength) and work very well. This is a unique piece for a AMC V8 ...I would use one.

Blown7

jeepsr4ever wrote
I believe this is a solution that could work for a while. How long depends on the heat/cooling cycles and fastener tension. Lots of these are made from 1045 steel (medium carbon middle range tension strength) and work very well. This is a unique piece for a AMC V8 ...I would use one.

I forgot to add on the latest revision of the engine I added dowel pins.
I doweled the plate to the caps.

Jeff

dadcat

I received the AMC girdle last week, Larry packed the item up very well and was mail to me in a very timely fashion. The instruction are very well written out with alot of details. The correct ARP studs & nuts were also in the kit. He gave me a copy of his AMC V-8 oiling modification pictorial manual. The manual has many very clear photos and detail mods for the AMC block. It lays out three stages of modifications with plenty of photo on each stage and mods. Very worth the price of the manual. Give him a call 541-973-7449 Finishline motor & machine

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