jeepsr4ever
Amalgamated molecular consumer heavy duty engine oil or AMC HD is a new oil and contains a higher amount of anti-wear additives than PCMO oils or passenger car motor oil that you would find at a gas station or convenience store. In addition to the increased anti-wear additives this oil are also designed for a high torque load and this oil has a exellent high temperature viscosity which will increase your engines oil pressure at operating temperatures and dues to its double viscosity it will not load the engine on start up like a strait 30w. This oil also treats anti-oxidants that thicken oil over age and cause it to be less effective. Unlike PCMO oil the AMC HD has a high amount of dispersants that handle tough gases and acids that will enter the crankcase and also come out of the castings. Inline 6's and V8's have a high breath rate meaning you are getting outside air into your crankcase, it is very important to hold a TBN count and without it the oil becomes acidic and corrosive and eats bearings and other vital engine parts. TBN or total base number is higher with AMC HD than with a PCMO and these are what will neutralize more acid than a PCMO type oil. The performance of this oil is a broad range from low RPM high torque loads to quick bursts of acceleration and extended RPM unlike a PCMO. With a high amount of viscosity stability this oil is a sure bet for a weekend cruiser/offroader to a saturday night racer. The oil also will condition your seals as you use it and their are no damaging effects from friction modifiers. Safe for rebuilt motors to used and abused.
Extended oil change intervals can be used and this oil and it will not corrode or attack your oil pumps cast aluminum in the V8's and is exellent for the loads of a torquey L6 or a exremely outfitted V8. AMC HD also penetrates your oil gears and distributor and camshaft gear safely and without microscopic casting degradation.
Lifted79CJ7
So when can we pick up some bottles of this mystery juice?
Jack
mrtazwrench
is it only going to be 15w40, or other weights also? :-|
jeepsr4ever
This is the summer blend and we have a winter blend that is a 0w50...alot of tech went into these.
JMSII
MC,
I want some! If it is available, can you add 6 quarts to my current order? :-)
John,
Seattle
jeepsr4ever
We will be selling by the case first. Shipping will begin the first week of july. We have not set a price yet but with the extended oil change intervals it will be more cost effective than a cheap store brand and save you in the long run as well.
Briteblock
What does the multiple viscosity mean? Whats the advantage? How much over can I go on a oil change? Any member discounts :-| I know it increases oil pressure I witnessed that (thanks for the show :t: )but can you answer the other questions please? How was your trip anyways?
jeepsr4ever
BB how are you? The trip to NC was fun and exhausting :shock: Please see the general chat for info on that. Viscosity is how a oil flows at 40 degrees f. The term multiple viscosity means when the oil is cool it flows at the first number but when it gets up to operating temp (185-195) it will flow like the second number used. Some oils like strait 30w flow only like 30w all the time and can cause tough winter starts by overloading the oil pump. It is especially important in these engines as they have a oil filter bypass that activates when the pressure of the oil flowing to the filter is too great. This causes the oil filter bypass to open and it lets in filtered particles to your bearings and will damage your engine. To prevent this we use lighter oils in the winter when the temperature will thicken a oil, but using a lighter oil also has its problems when the vehicle is at operating temperature (thus the 0w50 for the winter). To answer your interval question, you can double your oil change interval (Not your filter!) due to the higher TBN number. I am not sure about member discounts right now as we have other vendors selling this oil.
Briteblock
Dang! I didnt know that what the 2 numbers meant. Knowing more about the oil I put in my motor sure does help.
Thanks :t:
Lifted79CJ7
Same here, I never knew what the 2 numbers meant. I just paid more attention to 30, 40 number. You know MC, it doesn't matter what everyone says behind your back, you really are usefull for something! 8) :wink:
Jack
401
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XJ-001
I met with MC Saturday evening at the Anoka car show and have agreed to do a 5000+ mile test on the new oil. I will be driving my 70 AMX to CA and will be putting quite a few miles on in the next 6 weeks. I will be posting reports from time-to-time on how things are working out. Hope MC has 390 parts in stock! :wink:
jeepsr4ever
Let us know all the detials. You will find that the oil holds its viscosity longer than most so a small bump in oil pressure at operating temps is expected as well as over time...Godd to se ya post here Tom
XJ-001
Just kidding wit ya MC! I have the pics of my oil pressure at cold idle, hot idle and hot @1500 rpm (35 mph) with my current oil (Valvoline 10-40). I'll probably be changing the oil tomorrow night and will get pics with the AMC HD oil for you. I'll give it a good workout, as I just got the AC working in the car. Had it out for a quick spin this morning with the AC running and have no engine temp issues(gauge doesn't even go halfway idling in traffic!) and current oil press is normal. I think this'll be a good test for you.
Tom
jeepsr4ever
Hey thats great about the AC not changing your running temp! As far as testing, weve already done it...we just need a unbiased source for info. About teasing me (390 parts)..... 8) :?: :?: We dont carry a whole lot for 390's although I can get any part you may need
jeepsr4ever
here is a post from JU
am hearing alot of myths here and would like to clarify a few things
1. Synthetic's today can and CAN outlast mineral oils in engines as far as oil change intervals go.
2. Switching over to a synthetic is as easy as changing the oil
3. your first oil change you may develope a small oil leak but because of a oil additive called esther the seals will retain their net shape (if they arent too far gone)
4. Synthetic oils can help your engine last longer
5. Depending on the manufacturer or blend all factors vary
The advantage of the synthetic is that they can control the SIZE of the molecules. In todays refining they can refine mineral (sometimes called dino) so fine it reaches a synthetic characteristic. When you go to your local gas station and buy oil your not getting the better oil your getting what sells. Companies like amsoil and lucas have some good products and some snake oils. Most of the snakey oils will improve the viscosity of your oil like the lucas oil additive, this can generate micro hot spots and generally causes more wear on your oil pump. Additives purely for fixing leaky seals are just a large amount of esther. Esther (pronounced ester) replaces the natural oils in rubber and lets a cry cracked seal swell to its dimensional kinetic size. The problem with using a "seals leaks" additive is that your seals become dependant on the esther and when the additive is gone your seal again shrinks. Alot of tech on oil begins with what kind of torque and hp are you using and at what temp and RPM. would you use 5w30 in a ford diesel engine?....how about 10w30? In jeep engines the torque and power developement isnt very far from a diesel especially in a strait six so would you run 5w30 in a strait six? Manufacturers call out this from the factory because street engines arent built like race engines...they are actually built to a tighten spec and after 10,000mls the tolerances oipen a bit. Would you run a engine at 200,000mls on mfg spec oil? HECK NO! I learned all this lubrication tech form a company that helped us design a oil for use in strait sixes and high torque V8's. You could even leave that cheap convenience store oil in your jeep for extended periods of time and it will go bad, why ...because it isnt a heavy duty oil and air gets in and out of your crankcase..it contaminates your oil. Motor oil by nature must be able to mix with water this is due to the nature of the pickup of the oil in the pan and for corrosion factors. Oil also takes in alot from castings and form combusiton...over time your oil becomes acidic and looses its TBN or total base number..effectively becoming a thick corrosive sludge that doesnt lube anymore. Some oils like pure racing oils are bad for a street motor due to the friction modifiers they use and will give you more HP and torque but also break the bearings down faster. Convenience store oil and light duty motor oils also do not have a high shear down rate which means the oil cant take high torque loads...When I originally attended lubrication seminars I was shocked when I learned about the bad additives I was using and the cheap oil I thought was helping my engine. This wasnt suppose to be a commercial but I thought I would throw this into the mix with a link to some tech for those who still believe myths and still use cheap oil in their rigs
jeepsr4ever
:?: :?: :?: doesnt matter how much i type my fingers still bump wrong keys and mis-spell words :oops:
rollen dean montoya
3 questions
#1 how much per case?
#2 will it work in a ford 302 v-8 thats moving a 6800lbs e-150 van
conversion with 145000 miles?
#3 will the oil you have available work in the eagle with 202000 original
miles and is used not only as a daily commuter beast but an off
road warrior?
as my daily commute to work and home is 276 miles! oh did i mention it gets to 120 degrees out here! but i am lucky if the temp gage gets to
the 1st line after the "C" mark with the a/c on full blast! the 3 core modine radiator works too well :shock:
later, rollen :lo1l:
jeepsr4ever
yes it will and yes it takes the heat extremely well
rollen dean montoya
cool! :t: now how much per case?