360 tow motor advice

JERSEYJOE

THE EDELBROCK CAM IS WAY TOO MILD. THE CRANE 260 IS DECENT, I HAVE ONE IN MY CJ 7 360 PLOW TRUCK, I NEVER HEARD ANYONE COMMENT ABOUT THE SUMMIT GRIND. I REALLY LIKE THE ENGLE 5054. I HAVE RUN THIS BEFORE AND WAS HAPPY ENOUGH TO USE ONE THIS TIME AROUND IN MY J-20 PROJECT. I WOULD NOT USE IT IN A 10:1 COMPRESSION MOTOR THOUGH

ironman_gq

if you go with the k8600 be sure to look it over THOROUGHLY! they have had a lot of quality control problems and several people on this forum have had motors ruined very quickly by this cam most problems seem to be from lobes being improperly finished or hardening problems and the lobes going flat and eating the lifters :shock: :(: :smile:

JERSEYJOE

BEST REASON FOR NOT GOING WITH THIS MODEL. STICK WITH EITHER CRANE, COMP OR ENGLE. I DON'T THINK I AM GOING OUT ON A LIMB SAYING THAT THEIR QUALITY CONTROL IS BETTER AS IS THEIR WARRANTY...

kris

steviesj20 wrote
I believe that when I spoke with Engle last week that I spoke with a gentleman by the name of Doug.
Do you guys know if there is anyone in particular there that I should have spoken with?

"Doug" is Doug Engle. He and his brother Mark are the sons of Jack Engle who started the place. Over the years Ive talked to Doug the most, but Chris is the guy that usually answers the phones now.

AMX69PHATTY

There's always Elgin or Clevite "industrial" cams also.
The Elgin cam & lifters put in a 360 last year perform well.
They both offer a number of cams and 3 types of lifters.
They're not "high brow" cams, but quality seems to be there.
Check out the Elgin website for an on-line AMC cam listing with specs.

http://www.elginind.com/default.asp

ironman_gq

what do you mean by "industrial" cam?

AMX69PHATTY

Just that they don't do a lot of marketing and high profile flashy image stuff, usually are not offered in Jegs or Summit, some may be old school tried and true profiles, and commercial "industrial" engine rebuilders like Jasper etc probably use them in the "stock replacement" rebuilt engines they sell. Didn't mean to imply anything negative, the Elgin cam & lifters I got were good quality parts and are performing well. Engine combination had me backed into a corner with piston to valve clearance and the E-1041-P Elgin cam was the only off-the-shelf one I could find with more lift and duration than stock, but also without very much overlap, 64 deg, so that piston to valve clearance could be maintained. All the "brand name" cams with lift approaching .500 and duration approaching 290 deg had significantly more overlap, around 70 something degrees, which gave almost no piston to valve clearance with the low buck combination of parts being used. Didn't mean to imply anything "bad" about them.

ironman_gq

I wasnt thinking anything bad I just thought that they had two different lines out there or something. I had a clevite performer in my 304 for two years but could never get the idle to smooth out and it seemed a little anemic on the bottom end. They tend to be a chevy or ford grind on an amc blank kind of like a one size fits all and they do work reasonably well and are relatively cheap.

jeepsr4ever

If the sky is your budget then the MPEFI, increased compression, aluminum heads and nice custom ground RV type cam would get you rocking and rolling. If not then a RV cam, performer intake and carb and a little shaving on the heads to bump compression. Of course there are tons of variations.. I didnt get to read the entire thread so if I missed something or made myself look silly I will just have to deal with the ridicule :?:

82Waggy

401 Engle 5254H, 112LSA - 4deg Advanced Thorley Tri-Y Edel MPEFI 9:1 compression Warmed over 090 heads w/stainless Valves ------------------ GOLDEN!

steviesj20

I came up with a copy of desktop dyno to check some cams and the program is up and running. I am trying to input factory flow data for the cylinder heads (late model). Any idea of where this information can be found? I searched this site and have only found data for the early cyl. heads. Can anyone help?

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