Crank Key

Mudrat

sWell,
Finally got some time and pulled the front cover off to check the timing - looks like the gears are lined up, but found a little problem with the crank key.

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Thanks Fuzz #-o
What would I do without you?
But to set the record straight - I never had a whole key.

ironman_gq

put a new one in and solve all your problems. :mrgreen:

fuzz401

glad to see you recived my message

jeepsr4ever

:idea: Mini-me (key)

ironman_gq

how does one become so short?

Mudrat

Well, Got the dizzy gear off finally theyu used some TIGHT key's on that!!! But it looks like the crank has turned into the 'mini-me' key a couple of degree's. I've put some serious pressure with pri bars to get the crank gear to move without luck. Looks like I need to take the crank clockwise and the gear counter clockwise just a bit to free it up (most likely this is the cause of my timing issue between the crank gear and the balancer slipping.) But the problem is HOW!!! I know I should hand it back to the shop that built it, but don't want the headache of winching the Heep on the trailer and toting it 40 miles :roll: for them to tell me it's past 90 days (DUH!!! I've been gone the last 13 months!!!!!) So, how can I do the counter rotation deal to free up the crank gear off the mini-key to get it off to change the key? :blackeye: I'm still taking pics and going to see what compensation I'll get from them!!! Which will probably be nothing :angry4:

jeepsr4ever

GEEEEEEEEZZZZZZZ

Mudrat

Mudrat wrote
So, how can I do the counter rotation deal to free up the crank gear off the mini-key to get it off to change the key? :blackeye: :angry4:

jeepsr4ever wrote
GEEEEEEEEZZZZZZZ

And the answer is ...? :wating: :-|

jeepsr4ever

Piece of wood...hammer

Mudrat

jeepsr4ever wrote
Piece of wood...hammer

What size hammer? :idea:

Lifted79CJ7

BFH of course.

82Waggy

Use a gear puller

ironman_gq

put a big pair of channel lock pliars around the crank snout so that the teeth catch the key but be sure to not gouge the snout and get someone else to hit the gear in the right direction with a brass drift or piece of wood. If it dont work try to get the key to come out. with it being so short you might be able to catch the end of it and get it to come out. GOOD LUCK with it

Lifted79CJ7

I did mine the same way as ironman is suggesting and it worked well. Again, just make sure not to gouge.

1980_Cj7

Bestest, safest, and easiest way would be to get one of those great crank turning nuts MC makes. See the E-Store.

http://www.bulltear.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=21_35&products_id=122

You could use that to hold the crank with a big wrench while you "bump" the gear with a hammer and block of wood.

The nut is a great tool to have anyhow. It was invaluable to me when I was degreeing the cam, and it also worked great to tap the tight Roll Master timing gear on.

82Waggy

Man, don't beat on the gear or grab the crank with channel locks! 111!!! Go rent a gear puller from an auto parts store - usually fully refunded upon return.

1980_Cj7

Yes, I know there are specific instructions with the Roll Master timing set that caution against hitting against anything but the hub when seating the gear. I'd be very careful of where and how hard you hit on the gear. Probably would be best to just use a puller on it.

ironman_gq

I think he was saying that the gear has turned some so that the slot for the key doesn't exactly line up with the key and the gear is stuck that way. a puller will only pull the gear tighter onto the key. It has to be turned so that the slot lines up with the key so it can come off

1980_Cj7

ironman_gq wrote
I think he was saying that the gear has turned some so that the slot for the key doesn't exactly line up with the key and the gear is stuck that way. a puller will only pull the gear tighter onto the key. It has to be turned so that the slot lines up with the key so it can come off

Yes, I understand about the gear having turned out of alignment with the keyway, but if the key has made new indentations off the side of the keyway like it appears in the pics, it should still pull straight off, albeit with some difficulty I'm sure. It would be good to get the key back in the keyway, but I'm just not sure how much pounding the timing gear will take.

Mudrat

1980_Cj7 wrote
Bestest, safest, and easiest way would be to get one of those great crank turning nuts MC makes. See the E-Store.

You could use that to hold the crank with a big wrench while you "bump" the gear with a hammer and block of wood.

The nut is a great tool to have anyhow. It was invaluable to me when I was degreeing the cam, and it also worked great to tap the tight Roll Master timing gear on.

Yup would be great - but I don't have enough of the woodrift key sticking out - that's the problem!!!! And that's also the other problem - tight Rollmaster gears #-o