BeachScrambler1
Hey guys - I'm new to the site. I tried to sign up a couple of months ago but I never recieved the email back but it worked this time.
Anyway I have a couple of questions about a 66' AMC 327. I have managed to stuff one into an 84' Scrambler. Does anyone have one of these engines installed and running in anything? Mine has been rebuilt and is running like a top, I have some questions concerning the temp sender and heater core water return. Any help is appreciated. Also I have NOT been able to find a service manual for this engine - any ideas??
jeepsr4ever
Welcome aboard!! The AMC 327 is one of AMC's strangest V8's ever. What exactly are you concerned about?
jeepsr4ever
jeepsr4ever
BeachScrambler1
Hey jeepsr4ever, thanks for the quick reply. I'm glad to be here - I can use the help. I know this sounds small, but I would like to get the temp sender and the cooling water return from the heater core hooked up to the right place on the engine. I have looked everywhere for the coolant return on the block, etc and can't find it. The supply is from a 5/8" pipe off the pressure side of the water pump. No return connection anywhere that I can find. Someone told me that the connection should be back to a 5/8 "bullplug" on the cylinder head - that doesn't seem right to me but it could be, just trying to confirm. Temp sender is same thing - I don't have one but when I do get one where exactly does it go? Pics help, as you know there are not many of these things running around these days. I'll try to post some pics of my installation soon .....
Thanks again.
BeachScrambler1
Here are some pics of my project:
http://www.msnusers.com/CJ-8Stuff/shoebox.msnw
Edited url mudrat :t:
XJ-001
BeachScrambler: The temp sensor goes in a pipe-threaded hole on the left cylinder head. The hole is located between the #1 and #3 spark plugs. On your picture #19 I can just see the hole that it screws into, behind the #1 plug wire. The heater supply connection is on the right cylinder head, usually between cylinders #6 and #8. There was a threaded pipe about 6"-8" long that screwed into the hole and the hose attached to it. On your picture #21 I can clearly see the two holes with pipe plugs installed (one is near spark plug #2 and the other is near #8 ). The heater connection on the water pump is actually the return line. IIRC, the pipe thread is either 3/8 pipe or 1/2 pipe. Hope this helps!
Tom
BTW, it looks like you need to find the 4bbl intake from a '66-'68 Super Wagoneer or a '65-'67 Marlin or Ambassabor. IIRC, the 4bbl was standard on the Super Wagoneer, and optional on the AMC cars.
XJ-001
MC, What engine is that in your conversion pic? It sure doesn't look like a AMC 327...Maybe a Pontiac?
Tom
Mudrat
That is a BEACH'n Scrambler man! Even a color matched battery!!!! And I haven't seen clean lines like that since, well ... Brooke Shields was a teenager :shock: Siskol and Ebert give you :t: :t:
Can't help with the motor question but sounds like XJ has you going the right direction.
Great Job :sa:
Mudrat
ps. I fixed the URL in your post to go right to your photo album. - pat
jeepsr4ever
Put up the wrong pic its a buick 350 in a kaiser....DOH :?:
BeachScrambler1
Hey XJ and Mudrat - thanks for the compliments, fixing the URL and the help. I've been working on this thing for over a year now and I am so ready to drive it down the road! These connections, transfer case shifter, the exhaust and some general clean up (loose wires, etc) are all that's left.
XJ you are the man! That's exactly what I needed for the hook-ups - Thanks again.
Anybody have an idea for a service manual for this thing? I have tried Mopar Manuals with no success.
Mudrat
Should be able to find one ... " The Vigilante was built by AMC and is not the popular Chevy 327 V8. The AMC 327 was used in Jeep full size trucks and Wagoneers from 1965 until 1968." http://www.jeeptech.com/engine/amc327.html
Some AMC V-8 History HERE
Might want to check This out and send him an e-mail
Couldn't find a manual though :oops:
Mudrat
Toy Maker
For manuals, you may try : Bishko Automotive Books at (800) 544-3312. No promises, but worth a try.
BeachScrambler1
Mudrat and Toy Maker - I haven't been to the site in a few days thanks for the documentation links. I hope to have this hooked up by this wekend ... we'll see.
Mudrat
BeachScrambler1 wroteMudrat and Toy Maker - I haven't been to the site in a few days thanks for the documentation links. I hope to have this hooked up by this wekend ... we'll see.
Let us know how you're doing ... And PICS are a plus ;-)
Pat
fulsizjeep
Haven't been by here in a while... I have collected some 327 info over the last several months and devoted a web site to providing information about the Rambler/AMC Gen-1 V8s recently.
http://frontier.net/mystkblu/327/
That CJ8 project 327 is WAAAY cool! I am curious about the carb adaptation you have done on it. Please describe what ya got going on there. Also, are those home made headers? Nice job! :t:
ironroad 32
http://www.fsjnetwork.com/fsjn/viewforum.php?f=17&sid=a5f582cec1776ac6ad336712e45f40b7
Check that out, its a 327 forum on our FSJ network site, lotsa good info there, as for the heater car, really doesn't matter what way the lines go into, long as you have heat. To bad you didn't find us sooner I have a 66 327 with a 4 brl intake that i was selling, but the guy bringing my axles took it for trade of delivering em . Let me know if you need anymore help. And, AMC didn't make that engine, Rambler Nash made it.
fulsizjeep
Not to be a nit-picker, but you started it. Actually, there was AMC in the 50's. It was the result of a merger between Nash and Hudson. These cars sold under the name Nash, Rambler and Hudson. The AMC nameplate on the car became more the status quo in the mid-late 60s. The last car named Rambler was the American in 69. It never carried the AMC name. The Ambassador, for example, was a Nash in 57 and Rambler in 58 and it was a Rambler in 67 but it was an AMC in 68. The names were all mixed up through the 50's and 60s... So, the 327 was a product of Nash, Rambler, Hudson and AMC because they were used in all these makes and all under the same corporate hat - which was AMC. And that's the truth... :idea:
littlejohn
Is there an ignition upgrade available for the AMC 327?
I have one of these motors in a '66 Century Resorter I will be restoring this fall. It has the original points ignition, and I'm looking for something more reliable. Any suggestions?
I did a TFI upgrade on the 360 in my CJ- looking for something along these lines for the boat.
Thanks
John