Scott Helvenston

lisa

Sorry it took me so long to post it here guys. I am sure those who visit the other site have seen it. Scott Helvenston was a VERY good, VERY close friend of my cousin Garth. Garth was just on Geraldo talking about what a wonderful friend, father and man Scott was. If I could, I truly would be one of those on the firing squad to publically execute those cowards that ambushed, killed then dishonored Scott and his companions! I might have to miss a couple of times before I made sure they were gone. Garth met Scott when they were in Combat Missions, the USA tv reality show with former military and civilian police officers competing in four teams against each other. Scott was hoping to start a gym in California with one of the other members of the Delta team. That was the team he and Garth were on. Garth has asked that any time we mention Scott in print, to add the address for the Memorial Fund he has set up for Scott's children. I hope this is allowable, here it is: A memorial fund is set-up for Scott. Kyle and Kelsey Helvenston Memorial Fund P.O. Box #895006 Leesburg, FL 34789-5006 Make checks payable to: Memorial Fund/Scott Helvenston. No cash please. This tragedy has brought the war to my home. I support it and the decision to be over there. Scott did too. That is why he was there. If any of you or any one else EVER questions it, I will be glad to set you or them straight on it! PERSONALLY! Thanks guys. After three days, I am getting punchy. Seeing my Green Beret, strong solid cousin lose in Geraldo doesn't help much either. Please keep us all in your prayers.

jeepsr4ever

Lisa was that one of the latest attacks?

lisa

It was the Friday attack. The one where they pulled the body of the four security men out of the burning SUV, then hung two of them from the bridge! :(:

jeepsr4ever

Lisa I guess i dont understand why the youth of Iraq would do that and maybe we have done some things that arent right and maybe we have but man that is soo brutal and wrong......Dont they understand that all life is precious! Young and dumb and even old and dumb :-| Not right my friend ...not right

rollen dean montoya

what happened was totally wrong. my instant reply to that would be to send 2 c-17's over the area with 22000 lbs daisycutters (8 each) and cook them all just to let them know such actions will not be tolerated. also i would kill this cleric who is behind this! i served in the army from 81 to 84 and don't like i heard about these fine young men. we need to throw the rules out on this one and just kick ass!!!!!! later,dog :lo1l:

Mudrat

Prayers offered daily, we include all our troops and those "still on patrol" Pat

jeepsr4ever

True pat.....soo true

rollen dean montoya

i agree with mudrat. i will not take down the ribbons off my trees until all are home ,present and accounted for. for those "still on patrol" i wish them good journeys .i still have 3 friends over in iraq. 2 went back for the 3rd time from 29 palms and one has yet to return who has been there since the beginning.the one is a volunteer gunfighter with me at calico ghost town. of the other 2 one is the son of the safety officer with the mojave muleskinners and the other is the son of the president of the gunfighters for hire at pioneertown movie set in yucca valley ca. later, dog :lo1l:

Mudrat

I have a nephew and a cousin over there as well as several friends. Mudrat

MaxW

I support our troops but hell if i'm going to support a war that shouldn't have been started in the first place... Are we going to start shit with North Korea now? Hopefully this will all end before more of our countries young men have to die for a senseless cause.

rollen dean montoya

at least i know the guys are alive and well. i get emails at least once a week. was in grenada so i have alittle experience at it. it was jungle but still dodging bullets is dodging bullets. did it growing up in santa ana ca on a daily basis. no fun. hope the guys come home soon to stay later,dog :lo1l:

Mudrat

We should - it's called Global Extortionism. It's a political battle that is fought by the military. It's winable (Just like Iraq) but the polit-buts don't want to do it expeditiously - no nukes, but we have the means and wherewithall to get it done, quickly, efficently, finally. All of that has been discussed above.

And I agree, we need to wrap this up and bring the troops home. But quiting now will not have acomplished anything. Like Viet Nam (been there-did that), that was an ugly place back then and we had people at home that didn't support it so the polit-buts tried to run it. When they did that, they left the military out of the planning process and more troopes died. And we had some very famous persons mixed up with that crap (Jane Fonda - aka: Hanoi Jane, John Kerry aka: JFK (wanna-be), John Walker aka: Russian stooge that sold out hundreds of pilots so the North could shoot'm down; and thousands of others).

"Been there did that ..."
Grenada
Bosnia (x2)
Iraq? (x3)
An a bunch of other 3RD world brush fires that the US entered to stop wholesale slaughter of innocents...

Define sensless? Isolationism??
The Monroe Doctrine is dead and burried.
We live in a global community now and "evil doers" are being exposed more readily because we still have a 1st Amendment that allows them to make media headlines. Should we stand by and let that happen? NO. Should we focus more attention on American problems YES. so it's a political trade off.

I'm curious to hear your thoughts and basis.
Mudrat

mudgirl wrote
I support our troops but hell if i'm going to support a war that shouldn't have been started in the first place... Are we going to start shit with North Korea now? Hopefully this will all end before more of our countries young men have to die for a senseless cause.

jeepsr4ever

play nice now children

rollen dean montoya

senseless is the way that people can be swayed to blindly follow a cleric in the name of religion. whether it is right or wrong. senseless is dessicrating a persons lifeless body in public and saying god said to do this.totally wrong. senseless is protesting against something because you were told to without researching what it is you are going to protest about. about isolationism refer to the long dead monroe doctrine. it didn't work then and it won't work now. later, dog :lo1l:

MaxW

Everyone is entitled to their own thoughts on war and otherwise, as i am entitled to mine without being told that I don't know what I am talking about... That is the great part about living in the USA. [Edited by jeepsr4ever for content violation!]

jeepsr4ever

Do not disuade this topic, If you want to talk about politics or off topic things please post another heading!

This topic is about a dead american guys...sorry Scott

-MC